Re: [TSL] Passenger classes
"Marilyn L. Arnold" <> on 01/26/2013


I agree w/Susan ... do hope the chest is still in the family.  

Off topic, so if not interested, delete now!

Got me to thinking about my own grandmother's ship voyage from NY to
Jacksonville, FL in 1926 on the S.S. Lenape which caught fire off shore of
Lewes, Deleware, and sank in the harbor.  I bet my uncle George was in fact
put to bed in the cabin's drawer.  Brings a new image to mind!!! Thank you
for this!  In my case, my grandmother (father 10, uncles 8 and 2 mo) were
lucky to have been evacuated onto lifeboats.  My father 10, and uncle 8 were
separated from Grandma and baby (strapped to her body) in the chaos, neither
knowing if the others were alive.  (According to her journal, she
contemplated their fate, and had decided that it was better to push her
precious sons off the boat and have them die in the cold Atlantic waters,
rather than to have them be burned, and jump in afterwards with the baby
strapped to her body.)  Thankfully they were all rescued and reunited later,
but it was a harrowing event, long remembered by all.  Apparently, my
grandmother's first hand accounts, and those of my father 10, and uncle 8
were the ONLY first person accounts preserved of the event, although there
were many of the rescuers and the pilot boats from Lewes DE.  

And, completely off-topic ... my neighbor in Maine always told stories of an
aunt who remembered sleeping in a very narrow crib (this would have been mid
1800s).  Well, this crib IS very narrow and long and is preserved and loved.
How WONDERFUL it is to have family stories, particularly tied to items that
can be passed down to future generations.

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Susan Swiggum
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Carmel Reynen
Subject: Re: [TSL] Passenger classes

Hi Carmel,

That was a great link pb sent you and probably the best description of 
intermediate accommodations for the sail era that you'll find online.   
I don't doubt that baby would have slept in the bottom drawer.  I was told
that I too slept in a bottom drawer as a babe when visiting an 
Aunt  :-}   How great that the chest is still in the family.

Passage fares varied widely, sometimes from year to year depending upon
competition between the companies.  This link for 1849 indicates that your
family did well for intermediate accommodations at  15 per adult in 1851

There was a pretty big drop in emigration from UK to Australia in the two
following years, 1850 & 1851, which could explain the 'deal' they got.  And
the big jump in emigration from UK in 1852 probably meant emigrants in that
year paid a lot more.

The 1849 link indicates that children under 14 paid half the adult fare and
infants under 1 year traveled free.  It was usually more complicated than
that.  Here is one example

Adults, anyone 14 years and over
Children 9 - 13 years    eg. 18 children    =    9 statute adults
Children 1 - 8 years    eg. 27 children    =    9 statute adults
Infants, less than 1 year         carried free

Sometimes I have seen ages broken down more 7-13 ... 3-7 ... 1-3 with under
one year free.  Often the adult age was calculated for individuals above 12
years rather than 14.

Hope this helps,


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On 1/26/2013 10:46 AM, Carmel Reynen wrote:
> Hi All
> I had some ancestors come to Australia in January 1851. They came out 
> intermediate class. I know their tickets cost 15 per head (did this 
> include children?) and that they bought a large chest of drawers with 
> them that apparently held their needs while on the journey and someone 
> also believes the baby would have slept in the bottom drawer. The 
> chest is still in the family.
> So what did intermediate travel entail. I have seen steerage and heard 
> about cabin but not much out there on intermediate. They travelled 
> with 3 children under about 4 years of age.
> yours gratefully
> Carmel

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