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Re: [TSL] Olette Larsen - Norway to Seattle via UK
Susan Swiggum via <theshipslist@rootsweb.com> on 09/29/2014

Hello Avigayil,

You have done some terrific research.   I think you meant she sailed 
from Liverpool on MEGANTIC on September 5th 1911 and arrived at Quebec 
September 12th 1911.   If the manifest says August, then that would have 
been an error ... (I have seen them sometimes.)

  Reel Number    Ship Name      Shipping Line    Special Group(s)    
Departure Information    Arrival Information    Remarks
  T-4781    MEGANTIC    (WSD) White Star Line / White Star-Dominion 
Line, Liverpool, etc., U.K.
(D): Mrs. Radford party of Domestics & (O): Russian ; Finn ; 
Scandinavian ; Roumanian ; Hungarian ; German ; Dutch
Liverpool, England 1911-09-05    Quebec, Que. 1911-09-12 / Montreal, 
Que.    Captain Harry Smith; quarantine: list of passengers to Grosse 
Isle attached.

You have been using all the best research websites, however, I did 
manage to find her on the Digitalarkivet (lots of experience).  You were 
absolutely correct in your assumption.  She did sail from Christiania 
(Oslo) aboard the Wilson Line feeder ship ESKIMO.   She is traveling 
alone.    Elster was the Agent for White Star line.   She registered on 
29th August and sailed on the 30th August for Hull.   It would have 
taken a couple of days, then she would have travelled to Liverpool by 
train to embark on MEGANTIC.
She is unmarried [ug = ugift] is a store clerk ?  [butikd.], resided in 
Sandeherred and was destined to Washington [state] she had 100 [dollars 
/ kroner ?] and her ticket was pre-paid [Prp.]  not sure what b.fortj. 
is short for as my Norwegian reading is a bit out of date.

Transaction date    Date of departure    Given name    Last name    
Marital status    Occupation    Sex    Date of birth    Domicile    
Destination    With cash    Line    Ship    Freight (kr)    Payment 
info.    Purpose

29.08.1911    30.08.1911    Olette    Lars.    ug    butikd.    k    
27.01.85    Sandeherred    Washington    100    Elster    Eskimo        
Prp    b. fortj.

You did a terrific job of research and now you also have proof of her 
first emigration ship.  Norway heritage has pictures of ESKIMO.

One other thing ... with a prepaid ticket, it seems she might have been 
joining family or friends, so now you have more family members to research.

Now you need to tackle the Norway census seeing you also have her 
father's name

Good luck,

Sue

On 9/29/2014 3:10 AM, Avigayil Simpson via wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am researching my paternal great grandmother who emigrated to Seattle WA
> from Norway in 1911. With the help of Ancestry.com, I have collected quite
> a few documents relating to her which have given me a lot of insight as to
> her and her journey. So far this is what I have found out:
>
> Her name was *Olette Larsen* (this seems to be the correct spelling).
>
> She was born on 27 January 1885 and died September 11, 1974 at age 89.
>
> She sailed from Norway to England (most likely arrived in Hull and took the
> train to Liverpool from there; name of ship from Norway to UK still to be
> determined as well as date of sailing from Norway) and from England she
> left from Liverpool on the ship *SS Megantic* on August 5, 1911. She
> arrived in *Quebec, Canada* on September 12, 1911. I have a copy of the
> ship's manifest which gives me the following information:
>
> - she was 26 years old at the time
> - her occupation is given as "domestic"
> - her father's name was *Olaf Larsen* and his city of residence is
> given as *Sandefjord,
> Norway*
> - her final destination was Seattle, WA
>
> I have a copy of the 1920 census which has her age 33, married to *Charles
> Edgar White* with two boys - *Robert Olaf White* and *Melvin Edgar White* (my
> grandfather).
>
> I have a copy of the 1930 census which shows her marital status as
> "married" but lists her as "head of household" with no husband listed. Just
> the two boys who are teens.
>
> In the 1940 census, she is 55 years old, widowed, and living with a cousin
> named *Marie Anderson* and HER daughter, *Lillian Anderson* who was 20
> years old at the time. Olette's occupation is given as "janitor" which
> correlates with what my Dad has been able to tell me about her. He said she
> was a janitor and worked at the YMCA in Seattle.
>
> Also in 1940, her husband, *Charles*, is listed as 50 years old (I think
> this age is inaccurate tho - he was older than her) and appears in the
> census record for King County Jail as a prisoner.
>
> I found two different marriage certificates (scanned originals) for
> her. *Olette
> Larsen* and *Charles Edgar White* were married in Seattle, WA on June 26th,
> 1912. He was 32 years old, she was 26. She was single (1st marriage), he
> was divorced (2nd marriage) and hailed from New York. His parents' names
> are given as *Charles White* and *Hattie Randall*. Her parents' names are
> given as *Olaf Larsen* and *Louise Hansen *(my great-great-grandparents!).
>
> Right now, I am trying to determine what date she sailed from Norway, from
> which port and the name of the ship. I have gleaned a lot of useful info
> from the site www.norwayheritage.com. This site tells me that records of
> transmigrants' entry into the UK were only kept for 3 weeks and then
> destroyed! That would explain why I have found no records of her entry to
> the UK. So I'm wondering how to go about finding out which port she left
> Norway from, on what date and which ship from the Norwegian end of things?
> Is there a good site for this kind of research that would be in English?
> I've looked pretty thoroughly at this site:
> http://arkivverket.no/Digitalarkivet but haven't come up with anything.
>
> Since she listed her father's name and place of residence on the Liverpool
> ship manifest as being Sandefjord, Norway, and assuming she was living with
> him until she left, the city seems to be equidistant from both Kristiansand
> and Christiania (old name for Oslo, is this correct?) so I assume she could
> have left from either. That's a lot of assuming, though.
>
> Also from the www.norwayheritage.com, based on her departure date from the
> UK (August 5, 1911), I THINK I've narrowed down the possibilities as to
> which ship she may have been on from Norway. I'm guessing she was on the
> S.S. Eskimo but have no proof. How would I go about finding the ship's
> (that ship or any other that departed Norway) manifest if the UK didn't
> keep records for more than 3 weeks? Can this be found on the Norwegian end
> of things? Where should I look?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Avigayil Simpson
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