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[TSL] Fwd: Ship Off Course / At Sea Birth Certificate
cwarschak@aol.com on 03/04/2010

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From: cwarschak@aol.com
To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com
Cc: graemeo@netspace.net.au
Sent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: Ship Off Course / At Sea Birth Certificate


     One of my ancestors was born at sea in 1859.  I have never heard of an At Sea Birth Certificate but would like to know
     more about whether it was common to issue such certificates and, if so, where can I search for this information.
     My ancestor was Johann Warak (Warack on the ships passenger list).  The family traveled aboard the Anna Delius and
     it arrived in New Orleans in May 1859.
     Any assistance regarding where to search for At Sea Birth Certificates is greatly appreciated.




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To: theshipslist@rootsweb.com
Sent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 2:01 am
Subject: THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 47



Today's Topics:
   1. Ship Off Course (Or Not?) (Graeme Owen)
  2. Re: Passamaquoddy 1832 (Betty)
  3. Re: Ship Off Course (Or Not?) (David Dixon)
  4. Re: Passamaquoddy 1832 (Joe)
  5. WILLIAM TELL-Havre-New York City-1851 (THOMAS DEMPSEY)

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Hello All,
Here's a query for the experts who know about such things.
A month or so back I found the ship that my ancestors came to Australia on
ack in 1857. It was 'Invincible' of The Black Ball Line out of Liverpool.
I established through other means that my 'great great grandmother' gave
irth to a baby during the voyage. The "Born At Sea' Birth Certificate
etailed the date of birth and the co-ordinates as being 9'8 S and 32'29 W.
o I 'fired up' Google Earth to see exactly where it was and was staggered
o find that the given co-ordinates were not far off the coast of Brazil. I
hought they must have been wrong or I was not reading them correctly and
eft it at that.
I then was fortunate to find (at the National Library Of Australia) a diary
ritten by a female passenger on the Invincible on that exact voyage.
nfortunately the passenger who wrote the diary was travelling in 'Cabin
lass' and not 'Steerage' so it was not really reflective of my ancestors
ourney, but a fascinating and eye opening read just the same. However in
he journal she made mention of an island group which they travelled close
o . . . "we were within 20 miles of an island called Terando Noronba, off
he coast of South America, the northern portion of which is exactly the
hape of a church with a very high steeple" . .  Back to Google Earth I went
o find this island,  and found (slightly different spelling) 'Fernando de
oronha' just a small distance due north of where the birth apparently took
lace, (and within 'spitting distance' of Brazil!)
My (very long winded) query is . .  "What In The Bloody Hell Were They Doing
ff The Coast Of South America When They Were Sailing From England To
ustralia??"
I'm sure there's a logical explanation but it's got me beat! Anybody got any
houghts?
y the way there was a small mention in her diary about a birth on board in
teerage.
Cheers
Graeme
elbourne, Australia

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