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Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca> on 05/07/2007
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Don and Stella,
I can't respond about "ships' logs" but I also think a lot of people use
that term rather generally when seeking a passenger list /
manifest. From about 1854 the Captain of British registered ships
were 'required' to record BMD events at sea and forward a copy of the
information of those events to the BoT (Board of Trade), which were later
supposed to be forwarded to the GRO (General Register Office) . . . some
helpful Captains or Pursers also made notations on the passenger lists
themselves. Seems it was a case of "woulda / coulda / shoulda" with some
of these records.
Maybe this is a helpful website (they quote my website for the marriages
for the BT 334/117 which includes the marriages found in BT 158, which
Debbie Beavis transcribed)
Births, Marriages and Deaths At Sea
http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/frc/research/bmdatsea.htm
Below is an very informative collaborative effort by Harry Dodsworth and
Debbie Beavis, which Harry posted to TSL seven years ago and I'm re-posting
in its entirety. I still use it as a guide.
Sue
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TheShipsList Website
http://www.theshipslist.com/
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(May 1, 2000)
I've been trying to reconcile various British BMD at sea records
with LDS film numbers and this is what I have come up with so far.
The Board of Trade records (PRO groups BT158, BT159, BT160)
which cover births, deaths and a few marriages on British
registered ships from 1854 to 1890 are available from the LDS
on four films 1419469, 1419470, 1419471, 1419472. These are not well
organised, or usefully indexed and an event may be recorded on any
one of the four reels.
However these are real registers (sometimes with gossippy comments)
which make for interesting reading.
Later BoT BMD records in group BT334 (1890 to 1972) don't appear to
have been filmed by the LDS.
These Board of Trade records were supposed to be passed to the
Registrar to be used in a GRO series. Sometimes this was not done,
and sometimes entries were made directly to the GRO so are absent
from the BoT registers. Also the GRO series started earlier.
GRO Births at sea from 1837 to 1965 are available on 56 microfiche;
however these are only indexes which contain names, dates and in some
years, ship names. LDS Fiche numbers 6137268 - 6137322
The LDS Family Search Library Catalog will identify which fiche
relates to which year.
GRO Deaths at sea from 1837 to 1965 are on 160 microfiche, again
these are only indexes. LDS Fiche numbers 6137189 to 6137266.
The LDS Family Search Library Catalog will identify which fiche
or fiches relate to which year.
Observant readers may wonder what happened to microfiche 6137267.
This is listed separately as:
Index to informal certificate of births at sea (1-41) 1839 - 1867
Marriages at sea were really rather rare and the GRO doesn't have
a separate series. There is an RG34 series of miscellaneous foreign
marriages for British nationals and at the end of the places named,
the list adds - and at sea. I've no idea how many 'at sea' marriages
are on the film. LDS have filmed these:
volume 1, 1826-1870 film number 1818071
volume 2, 1871-1895 1818072
volume 3, 1896-1900 1818073
volume 4, 1900-1905 1818074
Apparently BoT were passing marriage entries to the GRO but GRO
were not processing these and were actually denying they had them!
(source: mariners list)
The LDS catalog lists many other record groups which may contain
a few BMD at sea events but the above seem the most likely.
Note that these records generally refer to events on British
registered ships whether the people are British or not.
Also the ships need not have been trading between British
(Empire) ports; so a birth on a Cunarder sailing from Trieste
to New York may be recorded.
I'd like to thank Debbie Beavis of the Mariners List for supplying
the information about record groups but the connection to LDS numbers
is my work, so please blame me if the film or fiche numbers are wrong.
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Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada
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